Disrespectful Jordan Love take gets ‘Freezing Cold Takes’ treatment before Packers-Panthers

The internet is full of hot takes. In the realm of pro sports, hot, bold, confident claims add spice. However, hot takes are always going to be susceptible to ridicule. Just take for example one take from way back in the 2023 NFL offseason, when a Bill Zimmerman said something unfavorable to Green Bay Packers quarterback Jordan Love.
“The Green Bay Packers have the worst starting quarterback in the NFC North. That felt good to type,” Zimmerman’s post read.
At that time, Love was just about to succeed Aaron Rodgers as the full-time starter under center for Green Bay. The Minnesota Vikings had Kirk Cousins, the Chicago Bears had Justin Fields and the Detroit Lions had Jared Goff.
Wild take about Packers’ Love in 2023 gets exposed two years later
Zimmerman’s take on Love got attention again of late because popular sports X account, “Freezing Cold Takes,” featured it in one of its recent posts.
Over two years after Zimmerman decided to take that thought off his chest and share it on the internet, Love has the Packers rolling atop the NFC North with a 5-1-1 record through eight weeks in the 2025 NFL season.
Also, Love just won the NFC offensive player of the week for Week 8 after leading the Packers to a 35-25 win over Rodgers and the Pittsburgh Steelers. Love threw for 360 passing yards and three touchdowns versus the Steelers, and now has a total of 1,798 passing yards and 13 touchdowns against only two interceptions on a 70.9 percent completion rate after seven games.
Love can add more to his numbers this coming Sunday, when the Packers host the Carolina Panthers at Lambeau Field.

What Flyers’ lineup might look like with Sean Couturier out injured

The Philadelphia Flyers lost their captain to injury on Thursday night and while we don’t know the timeline, if he’s out for a while, what could the lineup look like?

The Philadelphia Flyers might have won the game Thursday night’s showdown against the Nashville Predators, but they did lose something incredibly important to their season. In the middle of what ended up being a one-sided affair for the final two periods (on the score line anyways, maybe not the shot total), Flyers captain Sean Couturier went down with an injury.
Couturier did not return to the game as almost immediately after he went down the tunnel, the Flyers put out an announcement that the first-line center was staying out. Nothing official was said as to what caused the injury, but as many speculated and as head coach Rick Tocchet somewhat referenced in his post-game media availability, Couturier took a bad shot from teammate Noah Juulsen in the first period and
No one knows how long Couturier is going to be out. The Flyers do not practice Friday, so at the very earliest we’ll find out something during Saturday’s morning skate before they host the Toronto Maple Leafs. Until then, all we can do is guess and with Couturier’s injury history (albeit, recovering from multiple back surgeries is not comparable to taking a puck in your torso) there is a little bit of hesitation to think that he’s completely fine.
So, what does that mean for the Flyers while Couturier is out? The 32-year-old has averaged the most time-on-ice among any center on this team and has been cemented on the first line ever since the season started. Couturier has become more important than even some of the most optimistic followers of this team predicted before this season, as he currently sits second on the team in scoring with two goals and nine points in his 10 games played.
If Couturier is out for an extended period of time, who could we see take his place on the first line, and what could the lineup even look like? We have some guesses.
Keep the status quo as much as possible
Ultimately, the Flyers are winning hockey games and looking good while doing it. Sean Couturier no doubt has contributed to a whole lot of that but it could make sense in head coach Rick Tocchet’s mind to not change a thing. The classic trope of not fixing anything that’s broken or changing a winning lineup is too applicable in this situation, so it’s an option.
What that would end up entailing is trying to re-create Couturier in some sort of way — or at the very least make his replacement have as many similar attributes as he does. Among all potential centers on the roster, that has to be Christian Dvorak.
While obviously not at the same level on either side of the puck, Dvorak was brought in this summer to be a stabilizing force for the Flyers and wouldn’t look completely out of place if he was just given the reins on the top line between Owen Tippett and Travis Konecny. It would most likely make the majority of the fan base unhappy and missing the toothless smile of the captain even more than they already will, but it is something we could certainly see happening.
This would then mean Trevor Zegras moving to be a full-time center — that is something most people have already guessed is going to happen after losing Couturier — and then someone like Nikita Grebenkin, who Tocchet has put with Zegras and Michkov in spurts, or even a minor-league recall like speedy Anthony Richard, for example.
Zegras gets the big promotion
It’s something most people are clamoring for. After his three-point performance against the Predators and looking like he is out for vengeance — to show the hockey world that he truly is a very good all-around player in addition to his overwhelming skill — Trevor Zegras might take the first-line role. We’ve seen Tippett and Zegras connect ever so briefly to mixed results, and we’ve seen Zegras and Konecny on the same line for similarly mixed results.
We’ve seen this exact trio together for about 12 minutes in the preseason and 12 minutes in the regular season during some line-jumbling, so it’s at least popped in Tocchet’s head for a second. And maybe, with Zegras breaking out as of late, he can be freed from the shackles of needing some sort of defensively reliable (boring) linemate.
It would get rid of our loveable Michkov-Zegras connection, but just for a short amount of time and the newcomer deserves to get the push up the lineup. Nikita Grebenkin probably easily falls in line with Dvorak and Michkov on the Flyers’ “third line” but that doesn’t create a whole lot of offensive opportunities for the Russian phenom.
Noah Cates gets his opportunity
It would be very controversial considering how well they have played ever since they were put together last season, but in this time of need, if we’re talking about a player that brings the same defensive acumen as Couturier, it’s all about Noah Cates.
Moving Dvorak up to the first line, like we said, we be keeping the status quo in the sense that the Flyers’ best forward line would stay in-tact. But if Tocchet is less concerned with maintaining Cates, Brink, and Foerster as a unit to suffocate opposing offenses and score timely goals, then the 26-year-old center could move up to the first line.
Cates would provide a perfect balance of skill and tenacity to let Tippett and Konecny go bananas. He might not have the hockey brain that Couturier does, but he can play effective hockey and that might just be what is needed to get Konecny going offensively.
Foerster and Brink would most likely stay together, but if the group of centers are Cates, Dvorak, Zegras, and Abols, then it might make the most sense to put Dvorak with those two wingers, and then have Grebenkin with Zegras and Michkov full-time.
There’s no specific way of determining what is going to happen if Couturier is out for an extended period of time. There could even be a recall for a Phantoms forward and Grebenkin and the unnamed minor-leaguer would be in the lineup over Nic Deslauriers.
No one knows but we can just guess how Tocchet is going to approach his lineup if the captain is on the sidelines.